HORROR CROSSOVER ENCYCLOPEDIA: THE DELETED ENTRIES
ANNOUNCEMENT: THE BOOK WILL BE CALLED THE HORROR CROSSOVER ENCYCLOPEDIA AND THE SHARED REALITY DISCUSSED WITHIN THE BOOK WILL BE REFERRED TO AS THE HORROR UNIVERSE, DESPITE PREVIOUS POSTS HERE AND ELSEWHERE. HORROR CROSSOVER UNIVERSE WAS A TENTATIVE TITLE BUT IT WILL NOT BE EITHER THE TITLE OF THE BOOK NOR THE NAME OF THE SHARED REALITY WITHIN THE BOOK.
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My book isn't finished, but it is full, so I find myself having to remove some less relevant entries to make room for some entries that are more relevant that still need to be added. But rather than just delete them, I though I'd offer them for free to you.
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Each of the following pictures corresponds to an entry currently in the book. As I needed to make room for more crossover entries, some pictures sadly had to be removed. But here they are for your free viewing pleasure.
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As I keep finding really good crossovers, I find myself having to pick and choose which ones to include. The following were entries written up and originally intended to be included in the book, but as the book is getting overfilled, I had to make some sacrifices and remove the entries with the least relevant horror crossover information to make room for other finds with greater relevance.
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My book isn't finished, but it is full, so I find myself having to remove some less relevant entries to make room for some entries that are more relevant that still need to be added. But rather than just delete them, I though I'd offer them for free to you.
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Each of the following pictures corresponds to an entry currently in the book. As I needed to make room for more crossover entries, some pictures sadly had to be removed. But here they are for your free viewing pleasure.
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As I keep finding really good crossovers, I find myself having to pick and choose which ones to include. The following were entries written up and originally intended to be included in the book, but as the book is getting overfilled, I had to make some sacrifices and remove the entries with the least relevant horror crossover information to make room for other finds with greater relevance.
PULP FICTION (FILM)
Release Date: October 14, 1994 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: The films of Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez
Non-Horror Crosses: Air Force
The Story: The film is actually a series of interconnected tales involving hitmen and a boxer.
HCU Comments: Hitman Vincent Vega is implied to be the brother of Vic Vega from Reservoir Dogs. The story told to a young boy (in the boxer’s flashback) is from the events of the film Air Force. Thus that film is brought in. The character of Bonnie Dimmick also was in a deleted scene from Reservoir Dogs. I consider deleted scenes to be canon if they are included on the DVD and do not contradict the finished film. Everyone in the film smoke Red Apple Cigarettes. Red Apples show up in most of the films of Tarantino. Because of the continuous use of Red Apple Cigarettes in both the works of Eckert and Tarantino mean that the Tarantino Universe of films are brought into the Horror Crossover Universe. How do you like them Apples? (Seriously though, don’t smoke. It’s not good for you, even if Tarantino does make it look cool.)
CURDLED (FILM)
Release Date: 1996 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: The films of Tarantino and Rodriguez
The Story: A crime scene cleaner becomes fascinated with a serial killer.
HCU Comments: This film includes reporter Kelly Houge, who refers to a recent case she reported on involving the Gecko brothers, who originated in From Dusk Till Dawn. They even show a picture of the brothers, who are indeed the same actors (George Clooney and Quentin Tarantino). This film and From Dusk Till Dawn are both part of the interconnected world of Quentin Tarantino’s films.
ROMY AND MICHELE'S HIGH SCHOOL REUNION (FILM)
Release Date: 1997 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: The films of Tarantino and Rodriguez
The Story: Romy and Michelle go to their high school reunion.
HCU Comments: Hardly a horror film, but the presence of Red Apple Cigarettes and Big Kahuna Burgers provide a link to other Tarantino/Rodriguez films like From Dusk Till Dawn and Grindhouse. This film is followed by a prequel TV movie, Romy and Michele: In the Beginning.
KILL BILL (FILMS)
Release Date: October 10, 2003 - April 16, 2004 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: The works of Tarantino and Rodriguez
Non-Horror Crosses: Shadow Warriors; Executioners of Shaolin
The Story: When an assassin learns that she’s pregnant, she retires and goes into hiding, but her boss/lover and colleagues hunt her down. They kill her new fiance, family, and friends at their wedding rehearsal, and she ends up in a coma. A few years later, she awakes, and seeks revenge.
HCU Comments: Not a horror film, but it is part of the larger reality of Tarantino that includes From Dusk ‘Till Dawn and Grindhouse. And yes, Kill Bill is two films technically, but really it’s one film broken into two parts. Earl McGraw and his son investigate the wedding massacre. Earl was last seen in From Dusk Till Dawn, where he was shot. Either he didn’t die as was presumed from that previous film, or he maybe has an identical cousin who shares the same name. This Earl will appear again in Grindhouse. His number one son previously appeared in From Dusk Till Dawn 2. Bill has a home in Acuna, Mexico, previously seen in El Mariachi. The Bride seeks the aid of Hattori Hanzo. For generations, men with that name have been great warriors as seen in Shadow Warriors. The character of Pei Mei who trains the Bride is based on a character named Pei Mei who appeared in the films Executioners of Shaolin, A Slice of Death, and Fists of the White Lotus. In all three of those films, he dies. But he’s clearly the same guy. I can only conclude that he’s immortal, and given that this is the Horror Crossover Universe, that’s pretty plausible. There’s also the appearance of Red Apple Cigarettes, which appear frequently in the works of Quentin Tarantino.
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The following are some paragraphs that I removed, while the main entry still remains in the book. I had to cut these due to space and because they weren't completely relevant.
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The following are some paragraphs that I removed, while the main entry still remains in the book. I had to cut these due to space and because they weren't completely relevant.
Regarding Supergirl in SUPERMAN/ALIENS # 1 - 3 (DC AND DARK HORSE COMICS): But now for the really cool stuff, let’s forget about the Horror Crossover Universe and talk about the now deceased Post-Crisis DCU. Dan Jurgens wrote this to be part of DC canon. In pre-Crisis canon, Kara came to Earth and became Supergirl. In post-Crisis canon, at this point, there was no Kara. Supergirl was a protoplasmic being given life and power by a Lex Luthor of a Pocket Earth. So Jurgens intended this to be Kara. At the end of this tale, Superman thinks that she died, but she escaped in a small craft in suspended animation. So a year later, during the Final Night mega crossover, Superman goes to Luthor to borrow that craft he previously used to fight those Aliens. Jurgens wrote that story too, and he was specifically referring to this inter-company crossover in a mainstream DC title! But wait, there’s more. Cut to ten years later. In Superman/Batman, Supergirl comes to Earth in a the pod, having escaped from Argo. The Superman/Aliens crossover is forgotten, so one would think it’s not canon any more. But the protoplasm Supergirl is also forgotten. Also not canon? During the mega Infinite Crisis it’s explained that another Superman doppelganger, while trying to break through the barriers of the multiverse, managed to keep making history rearrange itself, causing the protoplasm Supergirl to be forgotten. (Actually, Peter David continued her story for another company as Fallen Angel). So it would make sense that this also caused the previous encounter with Supergirl to have been forgotten, but this is the same Kara he met in Superman/Aliens, and she was now arriving on Earth in the pod she escaped from then. Sadly, there’s too much DC intertwined complexity there to include, even if it is all tied to Superman/Aliens. And DC recently decided they don’t like the DC Universe, and got rid of it, and started over with something loosely resembling my favorite heroes.
Regarding Lois Lane in TALES OF THE SHADOWMEN VOLUME 5: THE VAMPIRES OF PARIS “THE MOST EXCITING GAME” (SHORT STORY BY XAVIER MAUMEJEAN): Lois had a niece during that period, Susie Tompkins. Since it’s doubtful that Susie is Margo’s child, they must have had another sister as well. Since in the silver age and onward Lois had a sister named Lucy, we must assume that Lois and Margo had another sister named Lucy, who married a man named Tompkins and had the child. In regular canon, Lucy is the youngest, but it would seem for that to work, Lucy would have to be the oldest. (Margo in this story calls Lois her baby sister.) Either that, or she had Susie at a very young age. Since Susie first appeared in 1943 and last appeared in 1955, we may assume that Susie was born in 1939-ish. So if Lois and Margo are in their 20s, that would have made Lucy a pregnant teen if she’s the youngest. But perhaps she was 18 and married and got pregnant right away, not too unusual for 1939. Then it’s plausible that Lucy Lane Tompkins was the youngest.
Regarding Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm in Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Pebbles Flintstone and Bamm-Bamm Rubble appear to be students at Crystal Cove High School. They appear in their teenaged incarnations from the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show. That means in this timeline, the Flintstones and Rubbles must exist in contemporary Crystal Cove. But by the rules of links in divergent timelines, that would place the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm show, and the show it spawned from, The Flintstones, in the main HCU timeline. Only, can it? The setting for the Flintstones is usually said to be circa one million B.C., and occasionally 10,000 B.C. mistakenly. Bedrock, and the entire world of their time, is a place where dinosaurs coexist with humans, and are pets and appliances. Television and telephones exist. Modern cigarettes exist there. They celebrate Christmas. They put on plays of Charles Dicken’s A Christmas Carol and have met Santa. And Fred and Wilma saw Star Wars as kids. In conclusion, the Flintstones cannot exist in the main HCU timeline. I allowed for some bad history in allowing Hercules and Xena, but the Flintstones is too much. But the divergent timeline rule still applies. It could possibly be that the Flintstones and the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show exist not in the main HCU, but in a pocket dimension, possibly accessible the portals to the lost worlds in the center of the Earth. If that’s the case, it may be that the Flintstones was actually a contemporary setting, or exists in a reality where time operates differently than in the real world, or the HCU.
Regarding Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm in Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Pebbles Flintstone and Bamm-Bamm Rubble appear to be students at Crystal Cove High School. They appear in their teenaged incarnations from the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show. That means in this timeline, the Flintstones and Rubbles must exist in contemporary Crystal Cove. But by the rules of links in divergent timelines, that would place the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm show, and the show it spawned from, The Flintstones, in the main HCU timeline. Only, can it? The setting for the Flintstones is usually said to be circa one million B.C., and occasionally 10,000 B.C. mistakenly. Bedrock, and the entire world of their time, is a place where dinosaurs coexist with humans, and are pets and appliances. Television and telephones exist. Modern cigarettes exist there. They celebrate Christmas. They put on plays of Charles Dicken’s A Christmas Carol and have met Santa. And Fred and Wilma saw Star Wars as kids. In conclusion, the Flintstones cannot exist in the main HCU timeline. I allowed for some bad history in allowing Hercules and Xena, but the Flintstones is too much. But the divergent timeline rule still applies. It could possibly be that the Flintstones and the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show exist not in the main HCU, but in a pocket dimension, possibly accessible the portals to the lost worlds in the center of the Earth. If that’s the case, it may be that the Flintstones was actually a contemporary setting, or exists in a reality where time operates differently than in the real world, or the HCU.
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